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This page contains our current inventory of Postwar Lionel original boxes. It includes component boxes, master cartons and set boxes.
* * * Grading Summary: A "grade 10" is Spectacular! A "grade 1" is downright ugly.
* * * Click on "Grade" in the 4th column heading for a full explanation of grading.
| Postwar Lionel Original Boxes | |||||
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| Postwar Lionel Original Set ("Outfit") Boxes: | |||||
| # | Description | Style | Grade | Price | Details |
| X-837 | Set Box | Corr | 6 | $150 | Photo of two sides.
Here's an interesting item: a Star Corrugated Box Company box from 1959 for the Manufacturer Promotional freight set headed up by the 246 Scout Steam Engine: Photo of the opposite sides. As documented by John W. Schmid in his book (Authoritative Guide to LIONEL'S PROMOTIONAL OUTFITS 1960-1969), the X-837 outfit was sold in both 1959 and 1960 but the 1959 version is known as one of the "WIX" outfits because it was available for $12.95 plus a C.O.D. charge with the purchase of 24 WIX Oil or Air Filter Cartridges. Close-up of the WIX Filters Label. The box measures 15 inches wide by 12 3/4 inches long by 4 1/2 inches high. Photo of the top. Flaws: various tears, creases, writing, punctures, somewhat distorted. Photo of the bottom. Various imperfections but this box is clean, complete and sturdy -- plus there is no un-original tape anywhere! The original contents included the following: 246 Scout-type Steamer, 1130T small streamlined non-whistling Tender, 6162-1 blue New York Central long Gondola with white canisters, 6014-150 WIX Boxcar and red 6057 red SP-type caboose! The X-837 outfit from 1959 is thought to be the only set to ever contain the RARE WIX Boxcar. It's a $800 set (or more) but not without the set box! |
| Postwar Lionel Original Component Boxes: | |||||
| # | Description | Style | Grade | Price | Details |
| 50 | Gang Car | ORANGE Corr |
7 | $ 15 | Photo.
An orange corrugated box for the 50 Section Gang Car sold in the '60s. Another view. Flaws: scrapes, dents on two corners, tears, tape, stains inside. It has the integrated liner (insert) and even with the imperfections it is a solid box: fairly clean, complete, square & sturdy. The orange corrugated box was the last one used for the 50 gang car and it is much harder to find than the brown corrugated version. |
| 231P | Rock Island Power A Unit |
Corr | 7+ | $ 60 | A very obscure box for the Rock Island Alco A unit sold from 1961-63:
Photo. Flaws: tears, remnants where original tape was removed, writing. Another view. This Mead Containers box is solid: clean, complete, square & sturdy! Photo of the side with the manufacturer's identification. A 231P box is rather scarce as most of the 231 Alcos produced came unboxed in uncatalogued sets! This is the first 231P box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| The following boxes (and original instruction sheet) are for the 249 Steamer and 250T Pennsylvania Tender from 1958 only and are being sold as a package: | |||||
| 249 | Steam Engine | Corr | 9 | | | \ / |
A "National Container Corporation" corrugated box for the 2-4-2 Scout locomotive:
Photo. Flaws: tears and a few light stains. Another view. This box is SOLID: clean, complete, square and sturdy -- plus there is no un-original tape anywhere! Photo of the manufacturer's data & identification. Comes with the original instruction sheet #249-8, dated 9/58 (stains & creases). Photo of the instruction sheet. |
| 250T | Streamlined Tender | Late Classic | 7+ | | | \ / |
A good-looking box for the 250T small streamlined tender:
Photo. Flaws: missing one interior coupler flap and a small crease. Another view. This box is solid: clean, square and sturdy -- plus there is no tape anywhere! |
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Price: $85 plus shipping for both boxes & instruction sheet described above.
We have never had these items available for separate sale before! If you have the 249/250T loco/tender combination in nice shape but missing these items, here is an opportunity to bring those train pieces up to collector value! | |||||
| 352 | Ice Depot Set | Corr | 6 | $ 45 | Photo.
A St. Joe Paper Co. box (352-50 is the part number) from 1955 for the Icing Station and Ice Car. Photo of the other two sides. Flaws: tears, creases, somewhat distorted, stains, some dirt, punctures, "period" writing, no insert. Photo of the manufacturer's data & identification plus the year. Lots of imperfections but the box has all of its flaps and there is no un-original tape anywhere! Only the second 352 box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| 2243 | ============= RARE Master Carton for: 2243 Santa Fe F3 Twin Diesel Units ============= |
Corr | 7+ | $325 | A very interesting box for the single-motor 2243 "027" Gauge Santa Fe F3 AB Diesels sold in 1957:
Photo. Box flaws: tears, creases, writing (in pencil), glue residue, mildly distorted. Another view of the box. Some imperfections but this box is clean, complete & sturdy -- plus there is no un-original tape anywhere! Photo of the top flaps (shown with rubber bands holding the flaps down). Improvements can be made over time to square it up with pressure and by storing it properly. Photo of the manufacturer's data & identification. This corrugated box was made by the St. Joe Kraft Paper Co., and has the year (designated as "7") preprinted on the bottom. Master cartons are very hard to find and this is only the second 2243 Master Carton we have ever had available for sale -- and the first one we have ever had from 1957! It is a very unusual item that will enhance any collection! |
| 2243P | Santa Fe F3 Power A unit |
Corr | 8 | $125 SOLD |
A box for the single-motor 2243 Santa Fe Power A unit sold in 1957:
Photo. Flaws: original corner tape is discolored and is lifting in some spots; tears; mildly distorted. The box is solid: clean, complete, fairly square and sturdy -- plus there is no un-original tape anywhere! Another view. This corrugated box was made by the Allcraft Container Corp. (part #2243-15) and has the year preprinted on one side. Photo of the year, manufacturer's data & identification. This is the first 2243P box from 1957 we have ever had available for sale! |
| 2333T | Santa Fe F3 Dummy A unit |
Early Classic | 7+ | $125 | Photo.
A box from 1948-49 for the 2333 Santa Fe F3 dummy A unit: Another view. Flaws: tears, creases, tape inside, glue residue. Photo of the box insert. Has the original insert (liner) and this box is solid: clean, complete, square and sturdy. Only the second 2333T box we have ever had available for separate sale! It is a very, very difficult box to find! |
| 2343P | Santa Fe F3 Power A unit |
Corr | 7+ | $ 25 | A VERY UNUSUAL box for the 2343 F3 power A unit from 1952: note the "2344P-10" (New York Central) part number in the last photo and the Santa Fe roadname elsewhere. Possible printing error but more likely an example of Lionel making use of an oversupply of boxes meant for the NYC. This box came to us with a 2343 Santa Fe Power A unit inside.
Photo of the sealed end. This corrugated box was made by the National Container Corporation (the company Lionel used in 1952 for the NYC F3 power unit). Photo of the open end. Flaws: tears, writing, some dirt, puncture, "aged" look, no insert. A few imperfections but the box is square and sturdy! Photo showing the manufacturer's identification & technical data AND the "2344P-10" part number. You have to love the mysteries surrounding Lionel's postwar era -- I do. Comments or clarification welcome! |
| 2353P | Santa Fe F3 Power A unit |
Corr | 6 | $ 35 | A box for the 2353 Santa Fe Power A unit sold in 1953:
Photo. This corrugated box was made by the St. Joe Paper Co. (part #2353-25) and has the year (designated as "3") preprinted on one of the long sides of the box. Photo of the sealed end. Flaws: box was used to store a smaller item and was deliberately creased on one end, amateur repairs using tape were made to that end, some dirt, no insert. Close-up showing the damaged end. Despite the imperfections, this box is still useful as it is has all of the flaps plus it is fairly clean and sturdy; an insert (even a repro one) will square this box up nicely. Photo showing the manufacturer's identification, technical data and year documentation. Only the second 2353 Santa Fe power unit box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| 2367P | Wabash F3 Power A unit |
Corr | 5 | $ 40 | A corrugated box for the double-motor 2367 Wabash Power A unit sold only in 1955:
Photo. Flaws: large (oil?) stain with a 2-inch by 2-inch crumbling area in the middle, punctures from track pins, tears, creases, writing, original corner tape is deteriorating, box is open on both ends. Another view. The part number of this Express Container Corp box is 2367-15. Photo showing the manufacturer's identification and technical data. Despite the flaws, this box is still very presentable as it is square and sturdy and the box can be improved with the use of reinforced gummed tape. Two views of the damaged areas. Only the second time we have ever had a 2367P box for sale -- it is not an easy one to find! |
| 2423 | Illuminated Observation Car |
Middle Classic | 6 | $ 15 | A box for the silver Hillside tail car sold from 1950-53:
Photo. Flaws: missing one interior coupler flap and the two nearby inner flaps are not original to this box, a small part of the top layer of one end flap is missing, tears, creases, punctures, tape, glue residue. Another view. Lots of imperfections but the box is clean, square & sturdy. It is also only the second 2423 box we have ever had available for sale separately. |
| 3520 | Searchlight Car | Middle Classic | 6 | $ 25 | A box for the Operating Searchlight Car sold in 1953:
Photo. Flaws: missing one interior coupler flap and a small amount of the nearby top layer of the box, tears, creases, lots of tape, no insert. Another view. A few imperfections but the box is clean, square and sturdy. Only the second 3520 box we have ever had for sale! |
| 6057 | Lionel Lines Caboose |
Perf. Panel | 7 | $25 | A box for the Lionel Lines (SP-type) caboose sold in 1959 & 1960:
Photo. Flaws: tears, scrapes, creases, somewhat distorted. Another view. A few imperfections but this box is fairly clean, complete and sturdy -- and there is no tape anywhere! Photo of the front panel. Only the second 6057 box we have ever had for sale! The box is much harder to find than the caboose! |
| 6162-1 | New York Central Gondola | Perf | 8 | $ 50 SOLD |
A very, very hard-to-find box for the blue 6162 New York Central long gondola sold in 1959 & 1960:
Photo. Flaws: tears, creases, scuffs, minor stains. Another view. This box is SOLID: fairly clean, complete, square and sturdy -- plus there is no tape anywhere! Photo of the front panel. Only the second 6162-1 box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| 6162-110 | New York Central Gondola | Picture | 7 | $ 15 | A picture box for the blue 6162 New York Central long gondola sold from 1961-65:
Photo. Flaws: tears, creases, scuffs, scrapes, tape, old store price sticker on one end flap. Despite the imperfections, this box is decent as it is complete, clean, square and sturdy! Another view. An odd box that does not show up very often! |
| 6414 | Automobile Car (from 1955) |
Middle Classic | 6 | $ 40 | A box for the Evans Auto Loader sold in 1955:
Photo. Flaws: one inner flap is not original to this box, tears; creases; glue residue, scrapes from tape removal; tape inside. Various imperfections but this box is fairly clean and sturdy. Another view. The 6414 Auto Loader was sold from 1955 to 1966 but this 1955-only box is for the very first 6414; it is only the second 6414 "Middle Classic" box we have ever had available for separate sale! The "Late Classic" box for the 6414 sold from 1956 to 1958 is very common, the "Middle Classic" 6414 box is not. |
| 6415 | Tank Car | Middle Classic | 7 | $ 25 SOLD |
A very presentable box for the Sunoco 3-dome Tank Car sold from 1953-55:
Photo. Flaws: missing one interior coupler flap, tears, creases, minor stains. Another view. A solid box: clean, square and sturdy! |
| 6520 | Searchlight Car | Middle Classic | 6 | $ 20 | A box for the stationary Searchlight Car sold in 1950 & 1951:
Photo. Flaws: missing both interior coupler flaps and a small piece of the top layer of the box, tears, creases, tape, glue residue, no insert. Another view. Various imperfections but the box has both end flaps plus it is clean, square and sturdy. Photo showing where the top layer is missing. This is the first "Middle Classic" 6520 box we have ever had for sale separately. |
| 6800 | Flatcar with Airplane | Late Classic | 6 | $ 45 | A box for the Flatcar with Airplane sold from 1957 to 1960:
Photo. Flaws: one end flap is creased and glued, tears, creases, tape, glue residue, punctures, writing, missing a small amount of the top layer of the box, amateur repairs, "aged" look. Another view of the box. Some imperfections but the box is clean, complete, fairly square and rather sturdy! Photo showing the end flap that is creased and where the top layer is missing. Only the third 6800 box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| Box Types | ||||
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| Abbreviation | Description | ~~~ | Abbreviation | Description |
| Art Deco | Orange & blue; bold blue lettering | ~~~ | Hagers | Hagerstown |
| Early Classic | Orange & Blue w/ San Francisco | ~~~ | Hills | Hillside |
| Middle Classic | Numbers on all sides; no San Fran | ~~~ | O Corr | Orange Corrugated |
| OPS Classic | Preprinted OPS stamp on side | ~~~ | Perf | Orange & White Perforated Panel |
| Late Classic | Numbers only on end flaps | ~~~ | Pic | Orange & White Picture |
| Bold Classic | Much bolder print on end flaps | ~~~ | W Corr | White Corrugated |
| Glossy | Later Coated stock | ~~~ | Win | Window |
| Corr | Brown Corrugated | ~~~ | Y Corr | Yellow Corrugated |
| C Perf | Corrugated; Perforated Panel | ~~~ | FO | Factory Overstamped |
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