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This page contains our current inventory of Postwar Lionel original boxes. It includes component boxes, master cartons and set boxes.
* * * Grading Summary: A "grade 10" is Spectacular! A "grade 1" is downright ugly.
* * * Click on "Grade" in the 4th column heading for a full explanation of grading.
| Postwar Lionel Original Boxes | |||||
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| Postwar Lionel Original Set ("Outfit") Boxes: | |||||
| # | Description | Style | Grade | Price | Details |
| 704 | Set Box | Corr | 5+ | $ 40 | A St. Joe (Kraft) Paper Co. corrugated box for a freight set from 1956: The 5-piece set was headed up by a 621 Jersey Central Diesel and was sold with "027" track.
Photo of the numbered end of the box. The box measures 14 inches wide by 11 inches deep by 6 1/2 inches high. Photo of the non-numbered end of the box. The box has tears, creases and stains plus the top layer is missing in places. In addition, one corner is separated. Photo of the bottom of the box. Some flaws but the box is fairly clean, square and sturdy -- plus no one has ever tried to repair this box so there is no tape anywhere! The original contents included the following: 621 Jersey Central NW2 Yard Switcher diesel, 6362 Rail truck Car, 6425 Gulf 3-dome Tank Car boxcar, 6562-25 NYC Gondola with Canisters, 6257 SP-type caboose and a 60-watt Type 1053 transformer. Overall this carton is decent and the set that it goes to is a fairly easy one to build as all of the pieces can be found in collector-quality condition without too much difficulty; this box would be the hardest item to find in any condition! This is the first 704 set box we have ever had for sale. Note: all outfits (sets) were sold by Lionel under two different serial numbers during 1955, 1956 and 1957. The traditional four-digit set boxes went to wholesalers who resold the sets to independent dealers (hobby shops, for example) while the new three-digit coding was meant for department stores and chains. The corresponding four-digit number to the "704" set was "1551W." |
| Postwar Lionel Original Component Boxes: | |||||
| # | Description | Style | Grade | Price | Details |
| 50 | Gang Car | ORANGE Corr |
7 | $ 15 | Photo.
An orange corrugated box for the 50 Section Gang Car sold in the '60s. Another view. Flaws: scrapes, dents on two corners, tears, tape, stains inside. It has the integrated liner (insert) and even with the imperfections it is a solid box: fairly clean, complete, square & sturdy. The orange corrugated box was the last one used for the 50 gang car and it is much harder to find than the brown corrugated version. |
| 2046 | Steamer | Corr | 8 | $150 | A nice box for the 2046 steam engine sold in 1950:
Photo. This corrugated box was made by the St. Joe Kraft Paper Co. Photo of the sealed end. Has the year preprinted on one side. Photo of the manufacturer's data and the year identifying the box as a 1950 item. Very few flaws -- just some tears & stains. Has the elaborate insert (liner) and this box is SOLID as it is complete, clean, square and sturdy -- plus there is no un-original tape anywhere! Photo of the elaborate insert. A very difficult box to find! If you have a high-quality 2046 Steamer from 1950 without a box (or with the wrong box) -- or if you are looking to complete Set #1473WS or Set #1475WS, this the right box! |
| 2245P | Texas Special F3 Power A unit |
Corr | 7 | $ 95 | A decent box for the 2245 Texas Special (M-K-T) F3 power A unit from 1954:
Photo of the open end. Flaws: tears, creases, some stains, no insert. Close-up of the flaps on the open end. This St. Joe Paper Company box has the year indicated by "4" on one side. Photo of the sealed end. The box is fairly clean, square and sturdy! Photo of the manufacturer's identification and year. This is the first 2245 Texas Special we have ever offered for sale separately! |
| 2353P | Santa Fe F3 Power A unit |
Corr | 6 | $ 45 | A box for the 2353 Santa Fe Power A unit sold in 1953:
Photo. This corrugated box was made by the St. Joe Paper Co. (part #2353-25) and has the year (designated as "3") preprinted on one of the long sides of the box. Photo of the sealed end. Flaws: box was used to store a smaller item and was deliberately creased on one end, amateur repairs using tape were made to that end, some dirt, no insert. Close-up showing the damaged end. Despite the imperfections, this box is still useful as it is has all of the flaps plus it is fairly clean and sturdy; an insert (even a repro one) will square this box up nicely. Photo showing the manufacturer's identification, technical data and year documentation. Only the second 2353 Santa Fe power unit box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| 2356 | =============== RARE Master Carton for: 2356 Southern Railways F3 Twin Diesel Units =============== |
Corr | 7+ | $475 On HOLD |
A very interesting box for the 2356 "O" Gauge Southern Railways F3 double-motored AA Diesels sold in 1954:
Photo. The box was made by the Star Corrugated Box Company, Inc. Photo of the top flaps. Flaws: tears, creases, stains, top flaps are separated from the initial opening of the box. Another view of the box. A few imperfections but this box is solid as it is fairly clean, complete, square and sturdy plus both preprinted end labels are perfectly readable -- and there is Close-up of one end. The box measures 17 inches long by 7 1/2 inches wide by 5 1/2 inches high. Photo of the bottom. Only the second 2356 Master Carton we have ever had and this one is nicer by far! Master cartons are hard to find and this one is certainly an obscure box! An unusual item that will be a great addition to any collection! Note that the 2356 Southern F3s were available for separate sale from 1954 to 1956. This Master Carton is from 1954 as indicated by the price of $47.50; the price in 1955 and in 1956 was $49.95. |
| The following boxes are for the Southern Railways F3 AA units from 1954 and are being sold as a package: | |||||
| 2356P | Southern Railways Power A |
Corr | 9 | On HOLD |
A spectacular box for the 2356 Southern Railways F3 Power A unit:
Photo. Flaws: tears, punctures. Another view. This St. Joe Paper Company box is clean, complete, square and sturdy! Photo of the data side. Nice SOLID box -- a virtual brick! Close-up of the flaps on the open end of the box. Has the insert (tape on one of the tuck flaps). Photo of the box insert. |
| 2356T | Southern Railways Dummy A |
Middle Classic | 7 | On HOLD |
A fairly nice box for the 2356 Southern Railways F3 non-powered Trailer A unit:
Photo. Flaws: amateur attempt at re-lettering the "N" and the "O" on both end flaps, tears, creases, scrapes, minor discoloration, tape. Another view of the box. Has the insert and this box is solid as it is clean, complete, square and sturdy. Even with the flaws, it is still one of the better 2356 "T" boxes we have ever had. Photo of the box insert. |
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$325 plus shipping for both 2356 Southern Railways boxes described above.
The Southern diesels are around; the boxes are rarely available for sale separately! | |||||
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Price for the 2356 Master Carton AND the 2356 component boxes described above: $625 plus shipping -- a discount of $175. ************************************************************************* | |||||
| 2367P | Wabash F3 Power A unit |
Corr | 5 | $ 85 | A corrugated box for the double-motor 2367 Wabash Power A unit sold only in 1955:
Photo. Flaws: large (oil?) stain with a 2-inch by 2-inch crumbling area in the middle, punctures from track pins, tears, creases, writing, original corner tape is deteriorating, box is open on both ends. Another view. The part number of this Express Container Corp box is 2367-15. Photo showing the manufacturer's identification and technical data. Despite the flaws, this box is still very presentable as it is square and sturdy and the box can be improved with the use of reinforced gummed tape. Two views of the damaged areas. Only the second time we have ever had a 2367P box for sale -- it is not an easy one to find! |
| 2379C | Denver & Rio Grande F3 B unit |
Late Classic | 7+ | $160 | A box for the 2379 D & R G F3 dummy B unit:
Photo of the "lesser" end. Flaws: tears, creases, tape. Another view of the box. Has the insert and this box is solid as it is clean, complete, square and sturdy! Photo of the box insert. This is the nicest 2379C box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| 2423 | Illuminated Observation Car |
Middle Classic | 6 | $ 15 | A box for the silver Hillside tail car sold from 1950-53:
Photo. Flaws: missing one interior coupler flap and the two nearby inner flaps are not original to this box, a small part of the top layer of one end flap is missing, tears, creases, punctures, tape, glue residue. Another view. Lots of imperfections but the box is clean, square & sturdy. It is also only the second 2423 box we have ever had available for sale separately. |
| 3484 | Pennsylvania Operating Boxcar |
Middle Classic | 6 | $ 35 | A box for the Pennsylvania Operating Boxcar sold only in 1953:
Photo. Flaws: missing both interior coupler flaps, tears, creases, tape & tape residue. Another view. Even with the imperfections, this box is decent as it is fairly clean, square and sturdy. This is only the second 3484 box we have ever had available for separate sale. |
| 3520 | Searchlight Car | Middle Classic | 6 | $ 25 | A box for the Operating Searchlight Car sold in 1953:
Photo. Flaws: missing one interior coupler flap and a small amount of the nearby top layer of the box, tears, creases, lots of tape, no insert. Another view. A few imperfections but the box is clean, square and sturdy. Only the second 3520 box we have ever had for sale! |
| 3562-50 | Operating Barrel Car |
Late Classic | 7+ | $ 55 | A box for the operating (yellow) Barrel Car that was sold in 1956:
Photo. Flaws: tears, creases, tape residue, glue residue, mildly distorted, no insert. Another view. A few imperfections but the box has both end flaps and all four interior flaps plus it is clean, fairly square and sturdy! It is also the nicest 3562-50 we have ever had available for separate sale. |
| 3662 | Operating Milk Car |
Picture | 7 | $ 60 | A box (and insert) for the "O" Gauge Milk Car AND platform (milk stand) offered by Lionel in 1964 & 1965:
Photo. Flaws: tears, creases, scuffs, scrapes, lots of tape inside. Another view. Has the elaborate, original insert! Photo of the front. Not perfect but the box is complete, fairly clean, square & sturdy! First 3662 "Picture" Box we have ever offered for sale! It is a tough one to find! If you have a 3662 with AAR trucks, this is the correct box for that car. Photo of the insert. |
| 6162-110 | New York Central Gondola | Picture | 7 | $ 25 | A very RARE box for a very rare car: a picture box for the RED 6162 New York Central long gondola sold from 1961-64:
Photo. Flaws: tears, creases, scuffs, scrapes, tape, old store price sticker on one end flap. Despite the imperfections, this box is decent as it is complete, clean, square and sturdy! Another view. An odd box that does not show up very often! This one is only the second preprinted 6162-110 box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| 6414 | Automobile Car (from 1955) |
Middle Classic | 6 | $ 40 | A box for the Evans Auto Loader sold in 1955:
Photo. Flaws: one inner flap is not original to this box, tears; creases; glue residue, scrapes from tape removal; tape inside. Various imperfections but this box is fairly clean and sturdy. Another view. The 6414 Auto Loader was sold from 1955 to 1966 but this 1955-only box is for the very first 6414; it is only the second 6414 "Middle Classic" box we have ever had available for separate sale! The "Late Classic" box for the 6414 sold from 1956 to 1958 is very common, the "Middle Classic" 6414 box is not. |
| 6464-510 | New York Central Boxcar |
Overstamped Late Classic |
8+ | $ 45 | Here's an interesting item -- and a rare one at that: it is an original box for the NYC Pacemaker boxcar from the Girls' Set sold in 1957 & 1958 that was overstamped by Lionel for the "6464-475" Boston & Maine boxcar!!!
Photo. Why would Lionel do this? To save money! Since the Girls' Set was not selling well, Lionel re-purposed existing inventory, including the boxes! This item was found in Set #2509WS with a Boston & Maine Boxcar inside. Another view. The next photo provides additional proof that this box (part #6464-520) was originally created for the 6464-510 Boxcar Photo of one end flap clearly showing the "510" under the overstamping & a close-up of the part number tuck. Flaws: minor tears and some "dig" marks -- probably from track pins. This brick-like box is SOLID: clean, complete, square and sturdy -- and there is no tape anywhere! The 6464-510 boxcar is not easy to locate to begin with but the box is very, very hard to find! This is only the second 6464-510 box we have ever offered for sale separately. |
| 6477 | Miscellaneous Car | Late Classic | 8 | $ 50 | A box for the Bulkhead Car with Pipes sold by Lionel in 1957 & 1958:
Photo. Flaws: tears, creases, scuffs, some discoloration. Another view. A SOLID box: clean, complete, square and sturdy! Only the third 6477 box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| 6520 | Searchlight Car | Middle Classic | 6 | $ 20 | A box for the stationary Searchlight Car sold in 1950 & 1951:
Photo. Flaws: missing both interior coupler flaps and a small piece of the top layer of the box, tears, creases, tape, glue residue, no insert. Another view. Various imperfections but the box has both end flaps plus it is clean, square and sturdy. Photo showing where the top layer is missing. This is the first "Middle Classic" 6520 box we have ever had for sale separately. |
| 6555 | Tank Car | Middle Classic | 7 | $ 25 | A box for the single-dome "S.U.N.X." Tank Car sold from 1949-50.
Photo. Flaws: tears, creases, tape inside, glue residue. Another view. Only the third 6555 Middle Classic box we have ever had available for separate sale and this one is very presentable as it is clean, complete, square & sturdy. |
| 6656 | Stock Car | Middle Classic | 7 | $ 15 SOLD |
A decent box for the small yellow-painted stock car from 1951-53:
Photo. Flaws: tears, creases, tape, tape residue, glue residue, scrapes, "dig" marks from track pins. The box is presentable even with the flaws as it is clean, complete, square and sturdy. Another view. This is the shorter (8 5/8 inch) box for the stock car without corner steps! It is only the second 6656 box we have ever had available for separate sale. |
| 6800 | Flatcar with Airplane | Late Classic | 6 | $ 45 | A box for the Flatcar with Airplane sold from 1957 to 1960:
Photo. Flaws: one end flap is creased and glued, tears, creases, tape, glue residue, punctures, writing, missing a small amount of the top layer of the box, amateur repairs, "aged" look. Another view of the box. Some imperfections but the box is clean, complete, fairly square and rather sturdy! Photo showing the end flap that is creased and where the top layer is missing. Only the third 6800 box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| Box Types | ||||
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| Abbreviation | Description | ~~~ | Abbreviation | Description |
| Art Deco | Orange & blue; bold blue lettering | ~~~ | Hagers | Hagerstown |
| Early Classic | Orange & Blue w/ San Francisco | ~~~ | Hills | Hillside |
| Middle Classic | Numbers on all sides; no San Fran | ~~~ | O Corr | Orange Corrugated |
| OPS Classic | Preprinted OPS stamp on side | ~~~ | Perf | Orange & White Perforated Panel |
| Late Classic | Numbers only on end flaps | ~~~ | Pic | Orange & White Picture |
| Bold Classic | Much bolder print on end flaps | ~~~ | W Corr | White Corrugated |
| Glossy | Later Coated stock | ~~~ | Win | Window |
| Corr | Brown Corrugated | ~~~ | Y Corr | Yellow Corrugated |
| C Perf | Corrugated; Perforated Panel | ~~~ | FO | Factory Overstamped |
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