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Original Boxes
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This page contains our current inventory of Postwar Lionel original boxes. It includes component boxes, master cartons and set boxes.
* * * Grading Summary: A "grade 10" is Spectacular! A "grade 1" is downright ugly.
* * * Click on "Grade" in the 4th column heading for a full explanation of grading.
| Postwar Lionel Original Boxes | |||||
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| Postwar Lionel Original Component Boxes: | |||||
| # | Description | Style | Grade | Price | Details |
| 665 | Steamer | Corr | 9 | $ 85 | Photo.
A Star Corrugated Box Company, Inc. box for the 665 steam engine sold in 1966. Another view. Flaws: some dirt; one crease; "aged" look. Photo of the manufacturer's data. The box is SOLID: fairly clean, complete, square and sturdy -- plus there is no -un-original tape anywhere! If you have a high-quality 665 Steamer, it deserves a box like this one! |
| 2031 | Master Carton for: Rock Island Alco AAs |
"OPS" Corr |
7+ | $135 | A box for the black and red Rock Island Alco Diesel units sold in 1952:
Photo. Flaws: small tears, minor creases, stains. Another view. This St. Joe/Kraft corrugated box measures 12 7/8inches long by 6 3/4 inches wide by 4 3/8 inches high. Photo of the top. Has the preprinted Office of Price Stabilization information on one side of the box. Close-up of the OPS information. Has the year preprinted on one side of the box. Photo of the side showing the manufacturer's identification and year. Has ALL THREE INSERTS and this box is solid as it is complete, square and sturdy -- plus there is no un-original tape anywhere! Photo of the inserts. This is the first 2031 Master Carton from 1952 that we have ever offered for sale separately! |
| 2046 | Steamer | Corr | 8 | $150 | A nice box for the 2046 steam engine sold in 1950:
Photo. This corrugated box was made by the St. Joe Kraft Paper Co. Photo of the sealed end. Has the year preprinted on one side. Photo of the manufacturer's data and the year identifying the box as a 1950 item. Very few flaws -- just some tears & stains. Has the elaborate insert (liner) and this box is SOLID as it is complete, clean, square and sturdy -- plus there is no un-original tape anywhere! Photo of the elaborate insert. A very difficult box to find! If you have a high-quality 2046 Steamer from 1950 without a box (or with the wrong box) -- or if you are looking to complete Set #1473WS or Set #1475WS, this the right box! |
| 2245P | Texas Special F3 Power A unit |
Corr | 7 | $ 95 | A decent box for the 2245 Texas Special (M-K-T) F3 power A unit from 1954:
Photo of the open end. Flaws: tears, creases, some stains, no insert. Close-up of the flaps on the open end. This St. Joe Paper Company box has the year indicated by "4" on one side. Photo of the sealed end. The box is fairly clean, square and sturdy! Photo of the manufacturer's identification and year. This is the first 2245 Texas Special we have ever offered for sale separately! |
| 2328 | Burlington GP7 |
Corr | 8 | $125 | Photo.
A box that rarely shows up in the marketplace -- a Kieckhefer Container Co. corrugated box for the Burlington GP7 Road Switcher sold from 1955-56! Photo of the sealed end. Flaws: writing, tape. The box is SOLID: clean, complete, square and sturdy! Photo of the manufacturer's identification. This is the first 2328 box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| 2344P | New York Central F3 Power A unit |
Corr | 8 | $ 85 SOLD |
A very presentable box for the 2344 NYC Power A unit from 1952:
Photo of the open end. This corrugated box was made by the National Container Corporation (the company Lionel used in 1952 for the NYC F3 power unit). Photo of the sealed end. Flaws: tears, creases, scrapes, stains. Photo showing the manufacturer's identification and technical data. Has a reproduction insert and this box is solid: fairly clean, square and sturdy! Photo of the box insert. If you have New York Central diesels from 1952, this is the right box for the power unit. |
| 2353P | Santa Fe F3 Power A unit |
Corr | 6 | $ 45 | A box for the 2353 Santa Fe Power A unit sold in 1953:
Photo. This corrugated box was made by the St. Joe Paper Co. (part #2353-25) and has the year (designated as "3") preprinted on one of the long sides of the box. Photo of the sealed end. Flaws: box was used to store a smaller item and was deliberately creased on one end, amateur repairs using tape were made to that end, some dirt, no insert. Close-up showing the damaged end. Despite the imperfections, this box is still useful as it is has all of the flaps plus it is fairly clean and sturdy; an insert (even a repro one) will square this box up nicely. Photo showing the manufacturer's identification, technical data and year documentation. Only the second 2353 Santa Fe power unit box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| 2356 | =============== RARE Master Carton for: 2356 Southern Railways F3 Twin Diesel Units =============== |
Corr | 7+ | $475 On HOLD |
A very interesting box for the 2356 "O" Gauge Southern Railways F3 double-motored AA Diesels sold in 1954:
Photo. The box was made by the Star Corrugated Box Company, Inc. Photo of the top flaps. Flaws: tears, creases, stains, top flaps are separated from the initial opening of the box. Another view of the box. A few imperfections but this box is solid as it is fairly clean, complete, square and sturdy plus both preprinted end labels are perfectly readable -- and there is Close-up of one end. The box measures 17 inches long by 7 1/2 inches wide by 5 1/2 inches high. Photo of the bottom. Only the second 2356 Master Carton we have ever had and this one is nicer by far! Master cartons are hard to find and this one is certainly an obscure box! An unusual item that will be a great addition to any collection! Note that the 2356 Southern F3s were available for separate sale from 1954 to 1956. This Master Carton is from 1954 as indicated by the price of $47.50; the price in 1955 and in 1956 was $49.95. |
| The following boxes are for the Southern Railways F3 AA units from 1954 and are being sold as a package: | |||||
| 2356P | Southern Railways Power A |
Corr | 9 | On HOLD |
A spectacular box for the 2356 Southern Railways F3 Power A unit:
Photo. Flaws: tears, punctures. Another view. This St. Joe Paper Company box is clean, complete, square and sturdy! Photo of the data side. Nice SOLID box -- a virtual brick! Close-up of the flaps on the open end of the box. Has the insert (tape on one of the tuck flaps). Photo of the box insert. |
| 2356T | Southern Railways Dummy A |
Middle Classic | 7 | On HOLD |
A fairly nice box for the 2356 Southern Railways F3 non-powered Trailer A unit:
Photo. Flaws: amateur attempt at re-lettering the "N" and the "O" on both end flaps, tears, creases, scrapes, minor discoloration, tape. Another view of the box. Has the insert and this box is solid as it is clean, complete, square and sturdy. Even with the flaws, it is still one of the better 2356 "T" boxes we have ever had. Photo of the box insert. |
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$325 plus shipping for both 2356 Southern Railways boxes described above.
The Southern diesels are around; the boxes are rarely available for sale separately! | |||||
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Price for the 2356 Master Carton AND the 2356 component boxes described above: $625 plus shipping -- a discount of $175. ************************************************************************* | |||||
| 2367P | Wabash F3 Power A unit |
Corr | 5 | $ 85 | A corrugated box for the double-motor 2367 Wabash Power A unit sold only in 1955:
Photo. Flaws: large (oil?) stain with a 2-inch by 2-inch crumbling area in the middle, punctures from track pins, tears, creases, writing, original corner tape is deteriorating, box is open on both ends. Another view. The part number of this Express Container Corp box is 2367-15. Photo showing the manufacturer's identification and technical data. Despite the flaws, this box is still very presentable as it is square and sturdy and the box can be improved with the use of reinforced gummed tape. Two views of the damaged areas. Only the second time we have ever had a 2367P box for sale -- it is not an easy one to find! |
| 2379C | Denver & Rio Grande F3 B unit |
Late Classic | 7+ | $185 | A box for the 2379 D & R G F3 dummy B unit:
Photo of the "lesser" end. Flaws: tears, creases, tape. Another view of the box. Has the insert and this box is solid as it is clean, complete, square and sturdy! Photo of the box insert. This is the nicest 2379C box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| 3428 | Operating United States Mail Car |
Perf. Panel | 8+ | $ 85 SOLD |
A box for the U. S. Mail operating Boxcar sold in 1959 & 1960:
Photo. Flaws: scuffs, creases, writing, panel partially separated. Another view. This box is SOLID: complete, clean, square & sturdy -- and there is no tape anywhere! Photo of the front. This is the first 3428 box we have ever had available for separate sale! It is a very difficult box to find in nice condition! |
| 3484 | Pennsylvania Operating Boxcar | Middle Classic | 6 | $ 35 | A box for the Pennsylvania Operating Boxcar sold only in 1953:
Photo. Flaws: missing both interior coupler flaps, tears, creases, tape & tape residue. Another view. Even with the imperfections, this box is decent as it is fairly clean, square and sturdy. This is only the second 3484 box we have ever had available for separate sale. |
| 3662 | Operating Milk Car |
Picture | 7 | $ 60 | A box (and insert) for the "O" Gauge Milk Car AND platform (milk stand) offered by Lionel in 1964 & 1965:
Photo. Flaws: tears, creases, scuffs, scrapes, lots of tape inside. Another view. Has the elaborate, original insert! Photo of the front. Not perfect but the box is complete, fairly clean, square & sturdy! First 3662 "Picture" Box we have ever offered for sale! It is a tough one to find! If you have a 3662 with AAR trucks, this is the correct box for that car. Photo of the insert. |
| 6162-110 | New York Central Gondola | Picture | 7 | $ 25 | A very RARE box for a very rare car: a picture box for the RED 6162 New York Central long gondola sold from 1961-64:
Photo. Flaws: tears, creases, scuffs, scrapes, tape, old store price sticker on one end flap. Despite the imperfections, this box is decent as it is complete, clean, square and sturdy! Another view. An odd box that does not show up very often! This one is only the second preprinted 6162-110 box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| 6415 | Tank Car | Middle Classic | 7 | $ 35 | A very presentable box for the Sunoco 3-dome Tank Car sold from 1953-55:
Photo. Flaws: missing one interior coupler flap, tears, creases, minor stains. Another view. A solid box: clean, square and sturdy! |
| 6464-510 | New York Central Boxcar |
Overstamped Late Classic |
8+ | $ 75 | Here's an interesting item -- and a rare one at that: it is an original box for the NYC Pacemaker boxcar from the Girls' Set sold in 1957 & 1958 that was overstamped by Lionel for the "6464-475" Boston & Maine boxcar!!!
Photo. Why would Lionel do this? To save money! Since the Girls' Set was not selling well, Lionel re-purposed existing inventory, including the boxes! This item was found in Set #2509WS with a Boston & Maine Boxcar inside. Another view. The next photo provides additional proof that this box (part #6464-520) was originally created for the 6464-510 Boxcar Photo of one end flap clearly showing the "510" under the overstamping & a close-up of the part number tuck. Flaws: minor tears and some "dig" marks -- probably from track pins. This brick-like box is SOLID: clean, complete, square and sturdy -- and there is no tape anywhere! The 6464-510 boxcar is not easy to locate to begin with but the box is very, very hard to find! This is only the second 6464-510 box we have ever offered for sale separately. |
| Box Types | ||||
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| Abbreviation | Description | ~~~ | Abbreviation | Description |
| Art Deco | Orange & blue; bold blue lettering | ~~~ | Hagers | Hagerstown |
| Early Classic | Orange & Blue w/ San Francisco | ~~~ | Hills | Hillside |
| Middle Classic | Numbers on all sides; no San Fran | ~~~ | O Corr | Orange Corrugated |
| OPS Classic | Preprinted OPS stamp on side | ~~~ | Perf | Orange & White Perforated Panel |
| Late Classic | Numbers only on end flaps | ~~~ | Pic | Orange & White Picture |
| Bold Classic | Much bolder print on end flaps | ~~~ | W Corr | White Corrugated |
| Glossy | Later Coated stock | ~~~ | Win | Window |
| Corr | Brown Corrugated | ~~~ | Y Corr | Yellow Corrugated |
| C Perf | Corrugated; Perforated Panel | ~~~ | FO | Factory Overstamped |
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