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This page contains our current inventory of Postwar Lionel original boxes. It includes component boxes, master cartons and set boxes.
* * * Grading Summary: A "grade 10" is Spectacular! A "grade 1" is downright ugly.
* * * Click on "Grade" in the 4th column heading for a full explanation of grading.
| Postwar Lionel Original Boxes | |||||
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| Postwar Lionel Original Set ("Outfit") Boxes: | |||||
| # | Description | Style | Grade | Price | Details |
| 2193W | Set Box | Corr | 7 | $135 | Photo of one of the numbered ends.
The corrugated box for the 2344 New York Central F3, 7-piece, freight set from 1952: Another view of the box. Flaws: tears, creases, some dirt (mostly on the bottom), glue residue, one small piece of tape, "93" on one end is scraped off. Photo of the "OPS" sticker. The box has the Office of Price Stabilization ("OPS") information ("Ceiling price of $70.00") affixed on the box. Close-up of the manufacturer's data & identification plus the year. This St. Joe/Kraft box also has the year printed on the side ("2" is incomplete). Photo of the top. Overall this carton is very presentable as it is fairly clean, complete, square and sturdy! Photo of the bottom. The set that this box goes to is an easy one to build as all of the pieces are not hard to find in collector-quality condition; this box would be the hardest item to find nice! The original contents included the following: 2344 New York Central A-B-A F3 Diesels, 6462 New York Central Gondola, 6456 Lehigh Valley Hopper, 6656 yellow Stock Car and an illuminated 6457 SP-type "Lionel" caboose. |
| 2221WS | Set Box | Corr | 7+ | $175 | Photo of the set box.
A corrugated box for a 7-piece freight set sold in 1954: the outfit was headed up by a 646 Steam Engine and was sold with "O" gauge track. Photo of the other two sides. The box was made by the National Container Corporation and it measures 7 1/4 inches high by 14 inches wide by 14 inches deep. Photo of the top. Has the usual tears and creases on the top flaps from the initial opening of the box plus a few minor flaws on the sides and the bottom. There is also some residue on one of the top flaps from an old label. The box is very clean overall plus it is complete and very sturdy! In addition, it is largely square and there is no un-original tape anywhere! Photo of the bottom. An old store price sticker on one end provides a little history about this box and its contents: the set was originally sold by "FARMERS SUPPLY" -- a Lancaster, Pennsylvania based business initially located at 137 E. King Street. Sadly, they closed their doors in 2016 after 82 years of business! The original contents included the following: 646 Steam Engine & 2046W "Lionel Lines" whistling Tender, 6468 Baltimore & Ohio double-door Boxcar, 3620 Searchlight Car, 3469 operating Ore Car, 6456-25 gray Lehigh Valley short Hopper and a 6417-25 Lionel Lines N5c (porthole) Caboose. Overall this carton is very solid and the set that it goes to is a fairly easy one to build as all of the pieces can be found in collector-quality condition with a little hunting; this box would be the hardest item to find nice! This is the first 2221WS set box we have ever had for sale and it is one of the nicest set boxes we have ever had! |
| Postwar Lionel Original Component Boxes: | |||||
| # | Description | Style | Grade | Price | Details |
| 50 | Gang Car | ORANGE Corr |
7 | $ 15 | Photo.
An orange corrugated box for the 50 Section Gang Car sold in the '60s. Another view. Flaws: scrapes, dents on two corners, tears, tape, stains inside. It has the integrated liner (insert) and even with the imperfections it is a solid box: fairly clean, complete, square & sturdy. The orange corrugated box was the last one used for the 50 gang car and it is much harder to find than the brown corrugated version. |
| 231P | Rock Island Power A Unit |
Corr | 7+ | $ 45 | A very obscure box for the Rock Island Alco A unit sold from 1961-63:
Photo. Flaws: tears, remnants where original tape was removed, writing. Another view. This Mead Containers box is solid: clean, complete, square & sturdy! Photo of the side with the manufacturer's identification. A 231P box is rather scarce as most of the 231 Alcos produced came unboxed in uncatalogued sets! This is the first 231P box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| 629 | Burlington 44-ton Center Cab Switcher |
Late Classic | 6 | $185 On HOLD |
Here's a box that does not show up for sale very often: a box for the Burlington 44-ton Center Cab Switcher sold in 1956.
Photo. Flaws: tears, creases, writing, stains, lots of tape inside, glue residue, mildly distorted. Despite the flaws, this box is still very presentable as it is has both end flaps and all four inner flaps plus it is fairly clean & somewhat sturdy. Another view. Has a well-done (but homemade) insert that is much better than the coupler inserts provided by Lionel. It is not original but is what Lionel should have provided! Photo of the homemade insert. Check your collection! This box is very, very difficult to find -- as are all of the 44-ton switcher boxes! This is the first 629 box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| 2328 | Burlington GP7 Road Switcher |
Corr | 8+ | $ 95 | A nice box for the Burlington GP7 Road Switcher sold in 1955 & 1956:
Photo. Flaws: tears, creases, writing, light stain, tape. Photo of the sealed end. The box was made by the Kieckhefer Container Co. Photo of the side with the manufacturer's data & identification. A solid box that is clean, complete, square and sturdy. It is also the first 2328 box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| 2333T | Santa Fe F3 Dummy A unit |
Early Classic | 7+ | $125 | Photo.
A box from 1948-49 for the 2333 Santa Fe F3 dummy A unit: Another view. Flaws: tears, creases, tape inside, glue residue. Photo of the box insert. Has the original insert (liner) and this box is solid: clean, complete, square and sturdy. Only the second 2333T box we have ever had available for separate sale! It is a very, very difficult box to find! |
| 2343P | Santa Fe F3 Power A unit |
Corr | 7+ | $ 25 | A VERY UNUSUAL box for the 2343 F3 power A unit from 1952: note the "2344P-10" (New York Central) part number in the last photo and the Santa Fe roadname elsewhere. Possible printing error but more likely an example of Lionel making use of an oversupply of boxes meant for the NYC. This box came to us with a 2343 Santa Fe Power A unit inside.
Photo of the sealed end. This corrugated box was made by the National Container Corporation (the company Lionel used in 1952 for the NYC F3 power unit). Photo of the open end. Flaws: tears, writing, some dirt, puncture, "aged" look, no insert. A few imperfections but the box is square and sturdy! Photo showing the manufacturer's identification & technical data AND the "2344P-10" part number. You have to love the mysteries surrounding Lionel's postwar era -- I do. Comments or clarification welcome! |
| 2353P | Santa Fe F3 Power A unit |
Corr | 6 | $ 25 | A box for the 2353 Santa Fe Power A unit sold in 1953:
Photo. This corrugated box was made by the St. Joe Paper Co. (part #2353-25) and has the year (designated as "3") preprinted on one of the long sides of the box. Photo of the sealed end. Flaws: box was used to store a smaller item and was deliberately creased on one end, amateur repairs using tape were made to that end, some dirt, no insert. Close-up showing the damaged end. Despite the imperfections, this box is still useful as it is has all of the flaps plus it is fairly clean and sturdy; an insert (even a repro one) will square this box up nicely. Photo showing the manufacturer's identification, technical data and year documentation. Only the second 2353 Santa Fe power unit box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| 2367P | Wabash F3 Power A unit |
Corr | 5 | $ 25 | A corrugated box for the double-motor 2367 Wabash Power A unit sold only in 1955:
Photo. Flaws: large (oil?) stain with a 2-inch by 2-inch crumbling area in the middle, punctures from track pins, tears, creases, writing, original corner tape is deteriorating, box is open on both ends. Another view. The part number of this Express Container Corp box is 2367-15. Photo showing the manufacturer's identification and technical data. Despite the flaws, this box is still very presentable as it is square and sturdy and the box can be improved with the use of reinforced gummed tape. Two views of the damaged areas. Only the second time we have ever had a 2367P box for sale -- it is not an easy one to find! |
| 2423 | Illuminated Observation Car |
Middle Classic | 6 | $ 15 | A box for the silver Hillside tail car sold from 1950-53:
Photo. Flaws: missing one interior coupler flap and the two nearby inner flaps are not original to this box, a small part of the top layer of one end flap is missing, tears, creases, punctures, tape, glue residue. Another view. Lots of imperfections but the box is clean, square & sturdy. It is also only the second 2423 box we have ever had available for sale separately. |
| 3456 | Operating Hopper Car | Middle Classic | 6 | $ 25 | A box for the Norfolk & Western operating short Hopper sold from 1950-55:
Photo. Flaws: missing one interior coupler flap, tears, creases, discolored, glue residue, lots of tape inside, mildly distorted. Another view. A few imperfections but the box is fairly clean and sturdy. This is the first 3456 box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| 3520 | Searchlight Car | Middle Classic | 6 | $ 25 | A box for the Operating Searchlight Car sold in 1953:
Photo. Flaws: missing one interior coupler flap and a small amount of the nearby top layer of the box, tears, creases, lots of tape, no insert. Another view. A few imperfections but the box is clean, square and sturdy. Only the second 3520 box we have ever had for sale! |
| 6017-185 | Caboose | Perf. Panel | 9 | $50 | A very nice box originally made for the gray-painted A.T. & S.F. SP-type caboose sold in 1959 & 1960:
Photo. Flaws: small tears, creases, minor scuffs. Another view. This box is SOLID: clean, square and sturdy -- plus there is no tape anywhere! It is also complete (including the "PUSH" tab) and the panel is almost 100% intact! It is the nicest 6017-185 box we have ever seen! Photo of the front panel. The "185" on each end flap was "blacked out" by Lionel so a gray ATSF caboose may never have been in this box. Lionel frequently used leftover boxes to package later items and in this case, this 1959-1960 box may have been used for any one of the later 6017-XXX cabooses including the 6017-100 Boston & Maine (produced in 1962 & 1965-66), the 6017-200 Navy (produced in 1960) or the 6017-235 AT&SF (produced in 1962). The over-stamping was done at the factory but most of it was subsequently removed (with no damage to the box) to reveal the "-185" suffix. 6017 perforated panel boxes are not that easy to find and are extremely difficult to find in collector-quality condition! If you have one of the cabooses noted above unboxed, then this box can certainly serve as a placeholder until a more desirable box comes along. |
| 6119-100 | D. L. & W. Work Caboose |
BOLD Classic | 7 | $40 | Photo.
A box for the D. L. & W. Work Caboose with a red cab and a gray tool bin. This is the correct box for a 6119 caboose from 1958. Another view. Flaws: tears, creases, dents in one corner, no insert. This box is very presentable: clean, square and sturdy -- plus there is no tape anywhere! The 6119-100 box is scarce and it is much harder to find than the caboose; only the third time we have ever had this box available for separate sale! |
| 6162-110 | New York Central Gondola | Picture | 7 | $ 15 | A picture box for the blue 6162 New York Central long gondola sold from 1961-65:
Photo. Flaws: tears, creases, scuffs, scrapes, tape, old store price sticker on one end flap. Despite the imperfections, this box is decent as it is complete, clean, square and sturdy! Another view. An odd box that does not show up very often! |
| 6361 | Timber Car | Hagers | 6+ | $ 85 | A very, very unusual "Hagerstown" box for the unmarked "Timber Transport" Car that was sold in 1968 & 1969:
Photo. Flaws: tears, creases, tape, price sticker residue. The box is clean, complete, square and sturdy! Another view. This is the first 6361 Hagerstown box we have ever had available for separate sale -- it is a very rare box for a very rare car! |
| 6414 | Automobile Car (from 1955) |
Middle Classic | 6 | $ 40 | A box for the Evans Auto Loader sold in 1955:
Photo. Flaws: one inner flap is not original to this box, tears; creases; glue residue, scrapes from tape removal; tape inside. Various imperfections but this box is fairly clean and sturdy. Another view. The 6414 Auto Loader was sold from 1955 to 1966 but this 1955-only box is for the very first 6414; it is only the second 6414 "Middle Classic" box we have ever had available for separate sale! The "Late Classic" box for the 6414 sold from 1956 to 1958 is very common, the "Middle Classic" 6414 box is not. |
| 6437 | Caboose | Window | 9 | $ 30 | A very nice box for the Pennsylvania porthole caboose sold from 1966-68:
Photo. Flaws: just some minor tears & scuffs. Another view. A SOLID box: clean, complete, square and sturdy -- plus there is no tape anywhere! Photo of the front. It is the nicest 6437 box we have ever seen -- and the first 6437 box we have ever had available for separate sale. |
| 6464-400 | Baltimore & Ohio Boxcar |
Late Classic | 6 | $ 25 | Correct box for the early version of the 6464-400 B & O boxcar sold in 1956 & 1957:
Photo. Flaws: tears, creases, amateur repairs with lots of tape, store price stamping. Another view. Has various imperfections but the box is clean, complete, square and sturdy! |
| 6468X | Automobile Car | Middle Classic | 6 | $ 75 | A scarce box for the equally-scarce TUSCAN Baltimore & Ohio double-door boxcar sold only in 1955:
Photo. Flaws: tears, creases, amateur repairs using lots of tape, minor stains, "aged" look). Another view. A few flaws but the box is clean, complete, square & sturdy! This box is not easy to find and this is only the third 6468X box we have ever had available for separate sale! |
| Box Types | ||||
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| Abbreviation | Description | ~~~ | Abbreviation | Description |
| Art Deco | Orange & blue; bold blue lettering | ~~~ | Hagers | Hagerstown |
| Early Classic | Orange & Blue w/ San Francisco | ~~~ | Hills | Hillside |
| Middle Classic | Numbers on all sides; no San Fran | ~~~ | O Corr | Orange Corrugated |
| OPS Classic | Preprinted OPS stamp on side | ~~~ | Perf | Orange & White Perforated Panel |
| Late Classic | Numbers only on end flaps | ~~~ | Pic | Orange & White Picture |
| Bold Classic | Much bolder print on end flaps | ~~~ | W Corr | White Corrugated |
| Glossy | Later Coated stock | ~~~ | Win | Window |
| Corr | Brown Corrugated | ~~~ | Y Corr | Yellow Corrugated |
| C Perf | Corrugated; Perforated Panel | ~~~ | FO | Factory Overstamped |
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